Re: What is final, last windows update, security file we should dlfor Win98SE?
StargateFan wrote:
> On 16 Feb 2008 19:47:52 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:ex3Q1nMcIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> MS06-021 Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer
>>> (916281)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-021.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-022 Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow
>>> Remote Code Execution (918439)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-022.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-023 Vulnerability in Microsoft JScript Could Allow
>>> Remote Code Execution (917344)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-023.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-024 Vulnerability in Windows Media Player Could Allow
>>> Remote Code Execution (917734)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-024.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-026 Vulnerability in Graphics Rendering Engine Could
>>> Allow Remote Code Execution (918547)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-026.
>>> mspx ==============================
>>> All of the above were released on 13 Jun-06 and are
>>> available at http://windowsupdate/microsoft.com and
>>> http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.co…en/default.asp
>>> . No more updates for Win9x were released after 13 Jun-06;
>>> Support fot Win9x ended on 11 Jul-06.
>> OP:
>>
>> The above info is extremely helpful as it clearly points out the
>> basic fact about MS updates, i.e. that 99% of them have to do
>> with IE/OE, MS Office, and WMP. The other 1% has to do with
>> problems in MS "graphics rendering engines" etc. and ONLY occur
>> when running MS programs. Not to mention few people write
>> malware that will run on 98 anymore. XP and Disasta offer MUCH
>> more exciting opportunities for making a real mess of your
>> machine.
>>
>> So:
>>
>> 1. Do not use Internet Explorer for anything except viewing chm
>> help files (thank you Microsoft). (You can actually remove IE
>> entirely with the program from www.litepc.com in spite of what
>> MS and its brainwashed slaves claim).
>
> Been using Firefox for a few years now <g>.
>
>> 2. Get a real browser, a real newsreader and a real mail
>> program.
>
> Agent many years before that <g> …
>
>> 3. Do not use Windows Media Player (duuh).
>
> Good. Safe there, too. Years ago heard of problems and have only
> ever used WMP6 Classic!
>
>> 4. Do not use MS Office.
>
> Ouch. That’s a toughie since still I still work in office. Despite
> my indifference to anything M$, have to say that nothing comes close
> to Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint! These 3 apps make up for some of
> the garbage the rest of the whole M$ family is!
>
> However, hate to say it but I’m migrating over to Linux so this won’t
> be as big an issue. Have had XP for about 15 months now and it’s
> eroded what little patience I had left since Win98SE went. After
> 98SE, Windows has steadily progressed downhill! 98SE was superb;
> can’t say very much positive about 2K and virtually nothing good about
> XP. Oh … my mistake … XP is very pretty!
>
> However, a colleague gave me his old computer that was gathering dust.
> It’s small, just 20gigs but I’m looking forward to using Win98SE
> again. Despite any inherent system designs/flaws with 98SE, went
> nearly 8 years at home virtually problem-free on it. One of the
> reasons I’m enjoying Linux forays is the ease of use and knowing that
> I’m returning to a text-based user interface alongside a GUI-based
> one. That was one of Win98SE’s strengths for me.
>
>> There are far superior and usually free alternatives for all MS
>> products claiming to perform the above functions.
>
> Yeah, going to learn OpenOffice since it comes packaged with the Linux
> distro I’m currently looking at. I’ll probably eventually switch
> everything M$ to OO. Just will take some time <g>.
>
>> 5. Forget about the word "update".
>
> <g> I never did do the update thing. But now that Win98SE is no
> longer supported, my plan is to dl the last, comprehensive "update"
> and after installing Win98SE, apply it and that’s the end of that.
>
>> Should you decide not to follow the sage advice above, and if
>> you really enjoy wading deep in the MS mud, an excellent source
>> of updates for 98SE is at:
>>
>> http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
>
> Thanks! I’m actually not an update fan but a colleague harped on and
> on about it this week I may take the plunge with the "new" box a
> colleague gave to me that I mention above. I prefer to install
> Win98SE and maintain security apps on it rather than updating even
> though everyone always harps on about the no-no aspect of that.
>
> As an aside, nice to know that Linux seems to be run on a better
> foundation. Can’t tell you how many Windows users in my circle of
> family and friends who are not computer literate have had their
> computers run into the ground because they didn’t know they need
> firewalls, anti-virus apps, anti-spyware apps, anti- …, ad
> infinitum, ad nauseum!
>
> But getting back to 98SE, it is and always will be my favourite
> Windows flavour. It allowed me extreme control, the registry never
> talked back to me, every single change I _ever_ made to it or the
> system in general was _always_ obeyed …
>
> For the 15 months, I’ve fought daily battles for dominance and control
> over my stupid XP box which gives me nothing but trouble. XP experts
> on the ngs never solved the details vs. large icons war! _None_ of
> their expertise did one bit of good! <ha!> I’ve even had to use a WE
> replacement (such a stupid thing to have to find alternative for!).
>
Start settings Control Panel Switch to Classic view
Explorer: View (details for me) then Tools Folder Options General (use
Windows classic folders): View, change just about all the defaults! and
click the top "Apply to All Folders".
Tags: 2008, 64, 96, 98, 98se, 99, classic, computer, computers, form, install, linux, mail, media, microsoft, pc, player, pro, product, professional, replace, system, update, win, windows, x64, xp> On 16 Feb 2008 19:47:52 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:ex3Q1nMcIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> MS06-021 Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer
>>> (916281)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-021.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-022 Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow
>>> Remote Code Execution (918439)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-022.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-023 Vulnerability in Microsoft JScript Could Allow
>>> Remote Code Execution (917344)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-023.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-024 Vulnerability in Windows Media Player Could Allow
>>> Remote Code Execution (917734)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-024.
>>> mspx
>>>
>>> MS06-026 Vulnerability in Graphics Rendering Engine Could
>>> Allow Remote Code Execution (918547)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec…letin/MS06-026.
>>> mspx ==============================
>>> All of the above were released on 13 Jun-06 and are
>>> available at http://windowsupdate/microsoft.com and
>>> http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.co…en/default.asp
>>> . No more updates for Win9x were released after 13 Jun-06;
>>> Support fot Win9x ended on 11 Jul-06.
>> OP:
>>
>> The above info is extremely helpful as it clearly points out the
>> basic fact about MS updates, i.e. that 99% of them have to do
>> with IE/OE, MS Office, and WMP. The other 1% has to do with
>> problems in MS "graphics rendering engines" etc. and ONLY occur
>> when running MS programs. Not to mention few people write
>> malware that will run on 98 anymore. XP and Disasta offer MUCH
>> more exciting opportunities for making a real mess of your
>> machine.
>>
>> So:
>>
>> 1. Do not use Internet Explorer for anything except viewing chm
>> help files (thank you Microsoft). (You can actually remove IE
>> entirely with the program from www.litepc.com in spite of what
>> MS and its brainwashed slaves claim).
>
> Been using Firefox for a few years now <g>.
>
>> 2. Get a real browser, a real newsreader and a real mail
>> program.
>
> Agent many years before that <g> …
>
>> 3. Do not use Windows Media Player (duuh).
>
> Good. Safe there, too. Years ago heard of problems and have only
> ever used WMP6 Classic!
>
>> 4. Do not use MS Office.
>
> Ouch. That’s a toughie since still I still work in office. Despite
> my indifference to anything M$, have to say that nothing comes close
> to Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint! These 3 apps make up for some of
> the garbage the rest of the whole M$ family is!
>
> However, hate to say it but I’m migrating over to Linux so this won’t
> be as big an issue. Have had XP for about 15 months now and it’s
> eroded what little patience I had left since Win98SE went. After
> 98SE, Windows has steadily progressed downhill! 98SE was superb;
> can’t say very much positive about 2K and virtually nothing good about
> XP. Oh … my mistake … XP is very pretty!
>
> However, a colleague gave me his old computer that was gathering dust.
> It’s small, just 20gigs but I’m looking forward to using Win98SE
> again. Despite any inherent system designs/flaws with 98SE, went
> nearly 8 years at home virtually problem-free on it. One of the
> reasons I’m enjoying Linux forays is the ease of use and knowing that
> I’m returning to a text-based user interface alongside a GUI-based
> one. That was one of Win98SE’s strengths for me.
>
>> There are far superior and usually free alternatives for all MS
>> products claiming to perform the above functions.
>
> Yeah, going to learn OpenOffice since it comes packaged with the Linux
> distro I’m currently looking at. I’ll probably eventually switch
> everything M$ to OO. Just will take some time <g>.
>
>> 5. Forget about the word "update".
>
> <g> I never did do the update thing. But now that Win98SE is no
> longer supported, my plan is to dl the last, comprehensive "update"
> and after installing Win98SE, apply it and that’s the end of that.
>
>> Should you decide not to follow the sage advice above, and if
>> you really enjoy wading deep in the MS mud, an excellent source
>> of updates for 98SE is at:
>>
>> http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
>
> Thanks! I’m actually not an update fan but a colleague harped on and
> on about it this week I may take the plunge with the "new" box a
> colleague gave to me that I mention above. I prefer to install
> Win98SE and maintain security apps on it rather than updating even
> though everyone always harps on about the no-no aspect of that.
>
> As an aside, nice to know that Linux seems to be run on a better
> foundation. Can’t tell you how many Windows users in my circle of
> family and friends who are not computer literate have had their
> computers run into the ground because they didn’t know they need
> firewalls, anti-virus apps, anti-spyware apps, anti- …, ad
> infinitum, ad nauseum!
>
> But getting back to 98SE, it is and always will be my favourite
> Windows flavour. It allowed me extreme control, the registry never
> talked back to me, every single change I _ever_ made to it or the
> system in general was _always_ obeyed …
>
> For the 15 months, I’ve fought daily battles for dominance and control
> over my stupid XP box which gives me nothing but trouble. XP experts
> on the ngs never solved the details vs. large icons war! _None_ of
> their expertise did one bit of good! <ha!> I’ve even had to use a WE
> replacement (such a stupid thing to have to find alternative for!).
>
Start settings Control Panel Switch to Classic view
Explorer: View (details for me) then Tools Folder Options General (use
Windows classic folders): View, change just about all the defaults! and
click the top "Apply to All Folders".
right click taskbar, Start Menu, Classic, Customise, tick Show Small
Icons on Start Menu
> Anyway, thanks for the help, guys. Much appreciated. Last thing to
> say is that who wants the latest Ferarri that limps along and gives
> less-than-ideal mileage when the sleek volkswagen outstrips it in
> performance every time (not talking the hardware advances; undoubtably
> good. Just don’t need ‘em! Performance and reliability much more
> important to me!) :oD
>